Food relationship to atmosphere & possibly silicon

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Food relationship to atmosphere & possibly silicon

Postby davh62 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:26 am

Having had a big discussion in chat with a few of you last night I thought I would bring this up. I would like to open this up further & collect some evidence to put the question to rest.

Question- Is there a relationship between base food yield & atmosphere/ Silicon %?

Certainly no atmosphere systems seem to have lower numbers. I would not only like player input but also like to collect some data in terms of a sample of some of your systems. Location isn't needed just the following-

1. Highest food score
2. Fertile/poor
3. Geo
4. Atmosphere reading i(number not breakdown)
5. Silicon content(from soil sample)
6.(edit) ocean present or not

If you could post your findings in this thread I will paste them all in the Food study section below. We should soon see some answers.
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Re: Food relationship to atmo & possibly silicon

Postby davh62 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:26 am

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Re: Food relationship to atmosphere & possibly silicon

Postby Moneyman » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:32 am

:mrgreen: This is definitely a good source for a Wiki posting after everyone's had their say. :D
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Re: Food relationship to atmosphere & possibly silicon

Postby Kheben » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:49 am

on bh and new dawn my highest scores were between 130 and 160 for fertile. both are terraformed
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Re: Food relationship to atmosphere & possibly silicon

Postby Greydog » Sat Mar 25, 2017 11:53 am

davh62 wrote:4. Atmosphere reading i(number not breakdown)


Could you clarify what you mean by this please.
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Re: Food relationship to atmosphere & possibly silicon

Postby davh62 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:01 pm

Greydog wrote:
davh62 wrote:4. Atmosphere reading i(number not breakdown)


Could you clarify what you mean by this please.



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type in- "maininstructon add display 0 atm show rs.pressure"
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Postby Greydog » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:06 pm

ok ..you want pressure readings ...will do ;)

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Re: Food relationship to atmosphere & possibly silicon

Postby RAM » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:09 pm

Jam said long ago that agro base rates use atmo and oceans as modifiers like minerals use geo as modifiers. Geo does not affect agro, if I understand correctly. There is a forum post from Jam from long ago that states this.

ND Runt grain and fruit base did not increase after it was terraformed. It had no atmo or oceans before being terraformed.

Found it.

http://forum.thespacegame.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=239&start=10#p1619

Jam wrote:Mineral quantities in soil samples and atmospheric quantities are proportional - they should always add up to 1. So you could easily convert them to percentages by multiplying by 100.

Geo = geological activity. On earth, most mineral concentrations are caused by volcanic activity or water erosion and deposits (or both working together really). The higher the geological activity, the more concentrated minerals are likely to be. Similarly an atmosphere and ocean mean soil fertility gets concentrated more as well.

Sample maps will show up the concentrations.
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Re: Food relationship to atmosphere & possibly silicon

Postby davh62 » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:33 pm

RAM wrote:Jam said long ago that agro base rates use atmo and oceans as modifiers like minerals use geo as modifiers. Geo does not affect agro, if I understand correctly. There is a forum post from Jam from long ago that states this.

ND Runt grain and fruit base did not increase after it was terraformed. It had no atmo or oceans before being terraformed.

Found it.

http://forum.thespacegame.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=239&start=10#p1619

Jam wrote:Mineral quantities in soil samples and atmospheric quantities are proportional - they should always add up to 1. So you could easily convert them to percentages by multiplying by 100.

Geo = geological activity. On earth, most mineral concentrations are caused by volcanic activity or water erosion and deposits (or both working together really). The higher the geological activity, the more concentrated minerals are likely to be. Similarly an atmosphere and ocean mean soil fertility gets concentrated more as well.

Sample maps will show up the concentrations.



Thanks ram so the relationship is proved for atmo & ocean. Post edited.

I still think some player supplied examples would be useful as datums for all explorers out there. Also glad to see good interaction on the forums again. :D
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Re: Food relationship to atmosphere & possibly silicon

Postby darkwhistle » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:40 pm

I wonder if it is possible that for the sample map display, a color code for food concentration for a particular plot couldn't be displayed in a small circle (or triangle, or border outline) inside the main square plot, and the main squares color-filtered to be only minerals? That might be easier than coding in new agricultural probes...

My small sample of results from my 3 colonies:
G3, sil 22, no ATM, no ocean, Grain fertile 30, tobacco poor 6
G2, sil 45, co2 ATM, no ocean, Animals fertile 70, fruit poor 13
G5, sil 8, co2 ATM, no ocean, Veg fertile 63, grain poor 14

With this small sample it doesn't appear that there is a relationship between ag and anything at all except maybe an ATM with co2. In my explorations, however, the best Ag world I ever found had no Atm, no ocean, and a sil rating of 50 (no colony there, so no yield information).
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