Buying enormous amounts of carbon in Barons Rest

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Buying enormous amounts of carbon in Barons Rest

Postby Loke » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:58 am

Its time to let colonies be profitable again!

Clydes Hangar in Barons Rest buys all the carbon you can produce for 240 credits per ton


Here is what you do:

If you just want to sell with profit at colony:
    -Put up a carbon sell price for anything less then 240 at your colony, give me the name of the colony and my trade fleet will be assigned to buy it. Its that simple! Size of the fleet depends on the colonys production and distance from Barons Rest

You want to use your own NPCs:
    -Send your own tradefleet to sell directly to Clydes Hangar. Tell your npc "trade between <insert your colony name> and clydes", and the npc will find the way (dont need to write the whole name, clydes will do).

Location of your colony:
    -Colony needs to be in a gated system!
But there is so much cheap carbon out there, isnt it?
    -A trade fleet is sent out to buy as much as possible of carbon for sale, to remove most of the too cheap carbon on the market. I dont touch carbon for less than 10 credits per ton, to avoid accidently buying carbon donated for gate projects.
How long will this offer available?
    -The buy order for carbon at Clydes Hangar is currently for 3 billion tons, will be increased when needed. This together with hungry carbon haulers will insure a fair profit for all carbon production for a very long time.
Is there really that much profit in producing carbon?
    -A buy order of 3b carbon at 240 adds up to 720b, pluss all that gets sold from Clydes Hangar and future increase in size of the buy order, should give a good profit for colony builders. A small colony producing 1m carbon a day gives a income of 240 million a day. How high production can you get from a colony? My highest producing carbon colony outputs 21m per day
Anything else that can be traded simultaneously?
    -Clydes Hangar only buys carbon, avoiding npcs getting confused trading something else and being unefficient.


Some of the gates connecting Barons Rest to the network, migth be helpful for planning trade routes from your colony to Barons:
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Barons is a good trade location, mostly do to all the gates from MZ3.

See wiki for the detailed maps:
http://wiki.thespacegame.com/mediawiki/index.php/Maps


If you are a carbon hauler, feel free to send your fleet to buy carbon from Clydes Hangar and move it to your own OSB in MZ3 (only 1 jump away) or other locations for quick hauling. Sell price is 250 per ton, buy price of 251 at your OSB will do.
Hauling directly from Clydes Hangar is not adviced, as the loading time will be too long for efficient haul.
If you dont have your own npcs to get the carbon with, I can send those that are not occupied to supply your OSB, but buying from colonies have higher priority so I wont always have available capacity for this.

Ill register how much carbon is for sale at Clydes Hangar and put it into a chart and use it as an indication of the amount of carbon there is on the market.
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Re: Carbon Market in Barons Rest

Postby davh62 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:45 pm

Great idea Loke.

I have just sold all my carbon to you there to free up my haulers there to other regions. I figure that now your mz3 carb only really costs me 60cr each. I will continue doing business as usual there.
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Re: Carbon Market in Barons Rest

Postby Loke » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:15 pm

davh62 wrote:Great idea Loke.

I have just sold all my carbon to you there to free up my haulers there to other regions. I figure that now your mz3 carb only really costs me 60cr each. I will continue doing business as usual there.

Thank you.
Yes, it will cost you 60 buying it at MZ3, the 100million you sold me today and all future carbon you sell here for 240. My sell price in MZ3 will be 300, but a decreased amount from what it has used to be, all trade appriciated as always. All you trade is a great support for creating more profit to colonies.

All haulers are adviced to put up a buy order at 251 at their own OSB (much quicker autopilot) and send their NPCs to Clydes Hangar to retrive the carbon.
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Re: Buying enormous amounts of carbon in Barons Rest

Postby Loke » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:26 pm

Increased buy order to 4b. Adjusted sell price to 240 (I get the profit from everyone that is selling carbon to cheap). Still some SMs my NPCs doesnt go to yet, but most of the big amounts of cheap carbon have been taken off market. Will have to do some rerouting of the fleet, but that will be later.

So far I bougth 1.6b carbon.

Anyone that wants to send their npcs, please do! Its easy money, find an SM that sells carbon cehap and send them to sell it here. Help me make carbon valuable again while earnig credits.
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Re: Buying enormous amounts of carbon in Barons Rest

Postby Loke » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:18 pm

Added chart to first post.
Currently selling 2721 million tons carbon
and buying 2177 million tons.

Slowly expanding OSB with more warehouses, but takes 7 minutes to plan 200 warehouses now (so far I have 46792 of them).

I can see there are at least 5 or 6 SMs selling carb that I should send my NPCs to, but Im too lazy to asamble more ships :P
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Re: Buying enormous amounts of carbon in Barons Rest

Postby Moneyman » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:33 pm

Loke wrote:Added chart to first post.
Currently selling 2721 million tons carbon
and buying 2177 million tons.

Slowly expanding OSB with more warehouses, but takes 7 minutes to plan 200 warehouses now (so far I have 46792 of them).

I can see there are at least 5 or 6 SMs selling carb that I should send my NPCs to, but Im too lazy to asamble more ships :P


:mrgreen: Black Hell Serendipity colony 5c carbon is meant for new players ... I set minimums to keep barons off the carbon.
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Re: Buying enormous amounts of carbon in Barons Rest

Postby Loke » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:38 pm

Moneyman wrote: :mrgreen: Black Hell Serendipity colony 5c carbon is meant for new players ... I set minimums to keep barons off the carbon.

I have no NPCs going to that one, as I filter for sell prices >9 in SM search, to ensure gate projects can use SMs without me stealing the carbon:
Loke wrote:I dont touch carbon for less than 10 credits per ton, to avoid accidently buying carbon donated for gate projects.

But if others want to send NPCs to buy carbon at Serendipity to sell at Clydes Hangar, I see no problem with that. Sounds like a very profitable trade route actually.
To me 5c for carbon sounds to cheap, and only pushes players to do hauling because it pays more than doing other things (much more fun things IMO) in the game. I migth change my mind and send NPCs to buy there later on, if I see there is a lot of carbon for sale (tens of millions), as that is what I am trying to remove from the market, to ensure that carbon producing colonies can get a fair profit from their production.

Edit: Current quantity available at Serendipity colony is too small for me to bother anyway. I am only after those with large quantity, which are pressing prices down
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Re: Buying enormous amounts of carbon in Barons Rest

Postby Ostert » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:50 pm

I don't have any NPC ships yet, but if you want to buy some carbon from me, i'm producing 1,4M a day.
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Re: Buying enormous amounts of carbon in Barons Rest

Postby Moneyman » Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:23 pm

Loke wrote: But if others want to send NPCs to buy carbon at Serendipity to sell at Clydes Hangar, I see no problem with that. Sounds like a very profitable trade route actually.


:mrgreen: Naw, I think a contract for 100k+ tonnes of carbon at 1600c per tonne is far more profitable.

Loke continues: To me, 5c for carbon sounds to cheap, and only pushes players to do hauling because it pays more than doing other things (much more fun things IMO) in the game.

I might change my mind and send NPCs to buy there later on, if I see there is a lot of carbon for sale (tens of millions), as that is what I am trying to remove from the market, to ensure that carbon producing colonies can get a fair profit from their production.


:mrgreen: :lol: Hehehe. Yep, thats the Loke I recognize. You'll notice that I fixed your text.

By the way, buying carbon at 5c a tonne and selling at 1000+c (contracts) a tonne is a far better deal.
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Re: Buying enormous amounts of carbon in Barons Rest

Postby davh62 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:38 pm

Buying it at mz3 and EGping to Ceres is THE fastest & MOST profitable route period. Makes contract hauling look like cheap change.

Lokes fleet transport carb to MZ3 where FG get fat on the profits to Ceres. :D
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