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Re: Nio and Tin Market in MZ3

Postby RAM » Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:37 pm

Loke wrote:So, nothing changes then? This is your second time you trade here


So much for you keeping your buyers and sellers confidential, as you said. :P

Loke wrote:But this is a OPEN market


Yep. I never said you needed to change anything. I just said I felt it was not worth my effort to supply it.

Loke wrote:I had to supply somewhere between 4.5 and 5 million both nio and Tin while also setting aside 250b credits


Yep. Again, I liked the overall idea, but felt I got bit as I decided to start working at supplying it. If a 1 million tin buy makes the price jump from 115k to 140k, I question the pricing structure. One of the big challenges is the low volume of active PC. I still think the nio tin prices are way overinflated for our size and the demands on it now.

I will be mining quite intensively over the next week. I suspect my stocks will be pretty high. Not sure what the demand will be. With stag and a few others mining, there is a massive glut of nio and tin right now.
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Re: Nio and Tin Market in MZ3

Postby Loke » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:40 pm

RAM wrote:
Loke wrote:So, nothing changes then? This is your second time you trade here


So much for you keeping your buyers and sellers confidential, as you said. :P

That applies to those actually buying/selling, not you :lol:
And I was only confirming the trades you mentioned in the earlier post, so I am keeping my words:
Loke wrote:I prefer that my customers have the option of being anonymous if they like. I can confirm those who would like to stand forward with their trades though
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Loke wrote:But this is a OPEN market


Yep. I never said you needed to change anything. I just said I felt it was not worth my effort to supply it.

Loke wrote:I had to supply somewhere between 4.5 and 5 million both nio and Tin while also setting aside 250b credits


Yep. Again, I liked the overall idea, but felt I got bit as I decided to start working at supplying it. If a 1 million tin buy makes the price jump from 115k to 140k,

And it will take 1 million to make the price drop equally. I could increase the amount for each price from 200k to 300k, that would slow down increase in price when someone buys, a little, but would also make it more difficult to decrease the prices as more needs to be sold to lower prices. Also I would have to mine more than 2.3m nio and 1.6m tin to do that, would take me some time. But it would stabalize the price more, if that is actually a good thing.
If I decreased amount for each price to 100k, the changes in price would increase, making it different several times per day, would be a bad reference for actual market price. Also the limitations of SMs would be more visual, as among other issues, the buy prices doesnt update when something is sold, which gives temporary weird/wrong price picture until SM updates once a day or when I visit. For example when you sell a lot of tin, the buy orders gets filled, but cheaper sell orders arent visible before there is an update, making a big gap between the buy and sell orders cutomers can see, when the price should be the same or only 5k apart.

RAM wrote:I question the pricing structure.
Have any good ideas for improvements?

RAM wrote:One of the big challenges is the low volume of active PC. I still think the nio tin prices are way overinflated for our size and the demands on it now.

This market isnt doing anything (at least it shouldnt) to make the prices go up or down. I leave the prices up to you all who are either trading here or otherwise selling/buying on the open market to change/control prices.
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Re: Nio and Tin Market in MZ3

Postby Loke » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:42 pm

Need more posts in this thread, so Davhs post will be lost in the pile :roll:
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Re: Nio and Tin Market in MZ3

Postby Loke » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:51 pm

There is probably not that much reason for concern, I mean, if you look at the chart there is only minor changes for the last 2 and 1/2 months, seems rather stable to me.
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Re: Nio and Tin Market in MZ3

Postby RAM » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:07 pm

Loke wrote:Need more posts in this thread, so Davhs post will be lost in the pile :roll:

But I do love you, almost as much as I love davh.

I must declare that neither of you to get close to Jacarie, Arieal, or Justance. Not yet anyway. Fleas is heading that way, though.
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Re: Nio and Tin Market in MZ3

Postby Loke » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:20 pm

This discussion took a weird turn, migth need to spam my own thread...
Would make my post count increase a bit, I bet RAM would like to try and lower that too :lol:
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Re: Nio and Tin Market in MZ3

Postby Loke » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:30 pm

RAM wrote:I must declare that neither of you to get close to Jacarie, Arieal, or Justance. Not yet anyway. Fleas is heading that way, though.

Dont forget Ant
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Re: Nio and Tin Market in MZ3

Postby Moneyman » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:53 pm

Loke wrote:Need more posts in this thread, so Davhs post will be lost in the pile :roll:


:mrgreen: Heh, heh Too bad NPC pilots can't post to the forum. It'd an army of comments.
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Re: Nio and Tin Market in MZ3

Postby Loke » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:08 pm

Moneyman wrote:
Loke wrote:Need more posts in this thread, so Davhs post will be lost in the pile :roll:


:mrgreen: Heh, heh Too bad NPC pilots can't post to the forum. It'd an army of comments.

If they could, they would probalby just post this over and over:
Could you... rephrase that?
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Re: Nio and Tin Market in MZ3

Postby RAM » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:02 pm

Loke wrote:
RAM wrote:I must declare that neither of you to get close to Jacarie, Arieal, or Justance. Not yet anyway. Fleas is heading that way, though.

Dont forget Ant


Ant would absolutely be way up there too.
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